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What would a guy like Daniel, in grad school but techinically on summer vacation, be reading at the beach? Or in general? Fiction or non-fiction ideas welcome. Even poetry. Titles, authors, and your most quotable parts - what would stand out about the work?

Gah. I am practically illeterate these days. And I am hoping for a few good quotes.

Making your suggestion, please also include a prompt for your porn!prize. Once I dig out of the two ficathons and the vampire piece, I want to go on a mini-ficlet spree! My research helpers should get first crack! (Heh. Crack.)

Thanks!

PS: Heck. While we're at it. What would Jack be reading, at the beach? Our Jack of today, not Academy Jack? (Or Academy Jack, too, if you want!)

LOVE!!!!
CK

Date: 2008-05-30 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-grrl.livejournal.com
Hmmm, most of the grad school people I've hung out with have been Astronomy (so science fiction) or Library Science (so mysteries or science fiction). Heh! I'm not seeing either of the guys doing that, though Daniel has probably read the real classics (Asimov, Christie, etc.) at some point. Okay, maybe Daniel might have a Dorothy L. Sayers mystery at the beach ...

I am totally picturing Daniel with excellent feminist contemporary fiction. I have no doubt that the Anthropology Department of whatever universities he was at were being influenced by postmodernism and Women's Studies, and these books would be sort of ... around:

Jeanette Winterson's The Passion (1987)
Doris Lessing's The Golden Notebook (1962, classic)
Margaret Atwood's Surfacing (1972, classic), The Handmaid's Tale (1985) <-- definitely THT!
Toni Morrison's Beloved (1987)
Maybe some Virginia Woolf, like Orlando, if he's dipping into the classics.

I think he'd also like Gore Vidal's brilliant and intensely researched historical fiction set in the classical world, like Creation (1981) and Julian (1964).

Jack? Besides Mad Magazine? ;-) It's stereotypical, but I picture him with the latest Robert Ludlum or other popular spy/thriller story. In-one-eyeball-and-out-the-other toss-away paperbacks. He has better books at home, and he's read them all, but the beach is purely for vacationing, including his brain.

Prompt? Crack! I want crack! Involving penguins.

Date: 2008-05-30 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
Thanks! That gives me some starting points. Any really, really sexy passages I should be paying attention to?

Date: 2008-05-30 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-grrl.livejournal.com
Jeanette Winterson's The Passion is GUH! Beautifully evocative magical realism. Unfortunately my copy seems to be lent out. Grrr. The phrase that's repeated throughout is "I'm telling you stories. Trust me."

Here's a quote from Orlando (the original genderswitch! well, post Tiresias) that I think Daniel would intellectually appreciate at the time, and it presages his life in Abydos:

What was to be done, Orlando could not think. To leave the gipsies and become once more an Ambassador seemed to her intolerable. But it was equally impossible to remain forever where there was neither ink nor writing paper, neither reverence for the Talbots, nor respect for a multiplicity of bedrooms.

(Not terribly sexy, sorry. Will think on it more after work. Context?)

Date: 2008-05-30 06:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tejas.livejournal.com
I bet Daniel would read Suzette Hayden Elgin, especially Native Tongue. For that matter, he probably knows her. :-)

Date: 2008-05-30 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
Oooo. Thanks!

Date: 2008-05-30 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
Hey! You didn't prompt!!!!

Date: 2008-05-30 07:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tejas.livejournal.com
DOH!

Umm... let's see... lazy, comfortable weekend stuff. OMC (old married couple ;-) sex. Hot and kinky is fun, but sometimes the familiar warmth of routine works just as well. ;-)

Date: 2008-07-20 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
For you, dahling! (http://brainofck.livejournal.com/259155.html). Though I am not sure I satisfied your request. I may have to think about it again.

Date: 2008-05-30 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avidrosette.livejournal.com
For Daniel:

Bocaccio/The Decameron
Marguerite Yourcenar/Memoirs of Hadrian
Djuna Barnes/Nightwood
Rimbaud/poetry (in this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0226719731/sr=1-14/qid=1212167756/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1212167756&sr=1-14&seller=) bilingual edition)
Patrick White/A Fringe of Leaves (or any other novel of his)
Grimmelshausen/The Adventurous Simplicissimus (1668 German classic set during the Thirty Years War; funny and macabre. Maybe he would have read it in English translation rather than the original German since it was summer, after all.)
Mircea Eliade/A History of Religious Ideas (all three vols *g*; covers every religion from ancient to modern times in the whole wide world. This would just have been published right there on campus (assuming you're placing Daniel at the University of Chicago), at the U of Chicago Press, and is by a Chicago prof. It made a big splash at the time and is still a classic.)
Georges Dumezil/From Myth to Fiction (nice companion to the Eliade and cited often in those books; Daniel definitely would have picked this up if he'd read those. Talks about how stories that a culture tells about itself arise and are transformed, and how to tease apart history and fiction in ancient - or at least very old - sagas. I can imagine Daniel having been quite influenced by this. Also pubbed (in English translation from the French) by Chicago and would have been readily available at any of the used bookstores a few blocks from campus)


For Jack:

I agree with [livejournal.com profile] green_grrl about the action/adventure, spy/thriller genre. I could also see him reading a big, thick classic novel, as long as it was juicy and a page-turner. Maybe also contemporary history books, particularly war and foreign policy histories. And maybe some wacky "written while under the influence" '60s/'70s stuff. And, hmmm, maybe novels set in Latin America (since he speaks Spanish and may still have an interest in the region).

John Le Carré/The Little Drummer Girl or any others by him
Joseph Conrad/Heart of Darkness
Jared Diamond/Guns, Germs and Steel
Mark Bowden/Black Hawk Down
any of the many books on World War II, the Vietnam War, and the more recent conflicts (depending on when you're setting the story)
Hunter Thompson/Screwjack
Thomas Pynchon/The Crying of Lot 49
Gabriel Garcia Marquez/One Hundred Years of Solitude

This was fun. :-)

For a prompt, what do you think about a second installment of the wing!fic?

Date: 2008-05-30 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
Oh. Nice.

Do you have any favorite passages from any of these?

Wing!fic, hmmmm? Will ponder.

Date: 2008-05-30 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avidrosette.livejournal.com
If you didn't really intend to write more of the wing fic, please don't sweat it. I like all your stuff; I'll be happy reading anything you write (and you certainly don't have to write anything specifically for me!). On the other hand, if you actually really want a collection of new prompts, I could come up with something else.

Re: fave passages: I don't have anything memorized, but I could thumb through a few of the books for you. I'd need to know what kinds of things you were looking for, though. Any particular themes you wanted to bring out? I can't really see Daniel quoting from these books verbatim in conversation, though I could see them playing as a background track in his mind while he's observing other things. Or did you want the quotes as headpieces? The Rimbaud poetry might be available online, if you wanted to check that out yourself. All the gay guys on campus were reading it back then. :-)

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Date: 2008-07-16 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
Wing!fic for you! (http://brainofck.livejournal.com/258472.html) and a hundred thank yous!

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