Jul. 27th, 2012

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CK: Which reminds me, I wanted to find out why that other guy Husband likes hates Iron Man.
CK: Charlie something with an S. *prods brain*
CK: Stross
zats clear: good lord
zats clear: i love iron man :-(
CK: I will confess to having turned down the offer of an entry into comic writing a few years ago -- Marvel offered me "Iron Man", but the closer I got to the coal face the more I realised I detested Tony Stark and everything he stood for.
CK: Since he's talking about comics in 2011, I wonder if they were trying to get him to write during Civil War, and he sided with Cap? :D
zats clear: :-)
zats clear: you crack me up
CK: LOL! Here's a comment on a list of stories one should read before seeing Iron Man - "Warren brings a genuinely science fictional tone to his superhero comics, and this reads more like a Charlie Stross story than, well, an Iron Man story."
zats clear: i really wished i liked comics
zats clear: makes me sad
zats clear: but i cannot visually process them
CK: I may have to apologize to my brother. I'm liking the art in Civil War WAY MORE than I expected to. I was expecting to mostly hold my nose about it being a comic in favor of getting the primary source material for my current fandom.
zats clear: hahaha
zats clear: cool
zats clear: like i said, i wish
CK: Also: The nearest I've ever come to scriptwriting is when an editor at Marvel wondered if I'd be interested in taking over "Iron Man". I did my research, and got a serious hate on for Tony Stark -- so serious I couldn't do it. I don't play well with superheroes ...)
zats clear: good grief
CK: Hahahaha! - Tony Stark might as well be a Mary-Sue figure for Donald Rumsfeld. Want to see me write a misunderstood/comic Adolf Hitler? That'd be easier to do than for me to write Iron Man (other than by turning the frame upside-down and making him the villain).



So I am very amused. I don't really know that much about Rumsfeld's politics, but I am really wondering if Mr. Stross just doesn't get Tony Stark? Or perhaps I play with too many fangirls who try to make him look better than his overall backstory? The Avengers and Iron Man did spend a lot of time fighting Communists back when Communists were relevant, I suppose? Maybe it was a bit jingoistic? Haven't reviewed the source material, only the secondary sources. *amuses self* I'm especially smiling imagining Mr. Rumsfeld, tip tapping away at his computer in his office in the White House or the Pentagon or wherever, working on his Cap/Iron Man, with Tony as his TOTAL MARY-SUE OMG!!!! *cries laughing*

UPDATE: Yeah, the more I think about it, he must have read Civil War. I have not read it yet, though it has been sitting on my couch for a week. But Tony does some crappy stuff in that, and depending on how you are inclined to view his reasons (and I have only viewed them through the lens of fanfic, so I don't know what they really look like on paper), I could imagine making the Nazi comparison. Though I always get really, really twitchy when people want to compare anybody to Hitler. That's a whole different league of evil and I really feel like you need a full-fledged genocide on your hands before you get to be compared to Hitler. Just sayin.'

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